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Forum Post: BQ27421 Eval Board

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We are currently using the BQ27421 Eval board to evaluate the device and are beginning to wonder of we have a bad board.  In the standard configuration once the external battery is applied, we only see ~0.003V (3mV) on the LDO output on VDD.  We have checked to make sure there is no external shorts on VDD and measured resistance to ground is >300 Kohms so it does not appears shorted.  We have attempted to toggle BIN with no change and we have used an external VCC on J4 with all signals tied to EXT and, again, we only see 3mV on VDD.  One additional clue is that when we put a heavy load (1.6A) across the battery we are are seeing a 26mV drop across BAT and SRX which would indicate about a 16mOhm sense resistor instead of the typical 7mOhm.  Are we missing something in the configuration of the board?  It appears that the only time the LDO is switched off is in Shutdown mode and our understanding is that once a battery is applied we should b e in active mode.  Also, Can the internal sense resistor vary that much off of typical?

Thanks for your help.


Forum Post: CSD75205W1015 - Connecting the 2 P-Mosfets

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I came through this pdf in which CSD75205W1015 is used to control load power. It can be noted that there are 2 P type Mosfets in this IC.

http://www.ti.com/lit/ug/tidu235a/tidu235a.pdf on page 27 

I realised in that the two P MOSFETS are connected serially. My understanding is that it is a waste of energy. But I want to know why it has been done that way. May I know what the reason is? 

 

Forum Post: RE: BQ24210 -- Large capacity battery charging

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Hi Jeff,

 

Thanks for you quick reply.  Can you also speak to the question about chemistry?  Would the bq24650 charge LiSOCl and LiSO2 packs?

 

Regards,

Forum Post: RE: BQ24170 ACSET minimum voltage

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Keiichi,

This is not a recommend use-case.

We don't spec a lower limit on the ACSET pin, but you would need to go with a large input current sense resistor which will cause high losses at fast charge (also will limit your maximum fast charge current), and the accuracy at low current is not tight enough to be able to provide useful charge current. If you have something like 20% accuracy at VACP-ACN the you would want to target your current limit 20% under the USB limit to maintain compliance. 

With a 150mA current limit, this is normally only used for system communication, not charging.  500mA limit OTG output would be the lowest I would recommend charging with.  To have communication only, pull ISET low to disable charge.

Thanks,

Rachel 

Forum Post: RE: High power system with bq chargers

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Hi Nicolas,

The bq24170 can charge at a maximum of 4A.  The battery discharge current doesn't go through the charge controller so it's primarily about you choice of external MOSFETs for the connection between battery and system.  You probably need to control your system so that it doesn't try to pull 40A when powered by the adapter because the system has a fixed either/or connection between the battery and the adapter. 

Thanks,

Rachel  

Forum Post: RE: BQ24195 status and I2C communiation

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Mehendra,

Your register set-up looks correct, but you are right that REG08  and REG09 are not displaying expected values.  

Please try to read-back twice before recording the REG09 status.  Previous fault bits are not cleared until the second time your read the register so it maybe possible the watchdog fault is old data. 

In addition to writing REG01=0x2b, also make sure the OTG pin is in the right state. If you are using the USB-to-GPIO box and the TI GUI software you can un-check the box shown below:

Thanks,

Rachel 

Forum Post: RE: BQ24133 - charge termination

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Daisuke,

  1. Charge termination will be 10% of your fast charge setting (130mA, typ). At VSRP-SRN=2mV the accuracy will be +/-40%.  
  2. You may go with a larger sense resistor to raise the precision; make sure you recalculate your ISET bias resistor accordingly. Also, keep in mind that the maximum VISET = 0.5V for the BQ24133 so with a 20mOhm resistor your maximum charge current will actually be limited to <1.25A.   If you need higher, you can change devices to the bq2417x family which have a higher current capability. 

Thanks!

Rachel

Forum Post: RE: BQ25505 battery questions

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You can connect a voltage source to VBAT_PRI.  The MUX I controlled by the VBAT_OK threshold settings.  If VSTOR=VBAT is above the VBAT_OK threshold then MUX connects that pin to the load.  If not, then VBAT_PRI is connected to the load.


Forum Post: RE: BQ27742 -- Impedance Track suitability for long term charge

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As per already discussed in person,

The gauge is able to track the cell temperature given that the circuit has external thermistors for temperature measurement and incoporate it in the gauging algorithm. Also, the customer has to make sure that the cells are characterised by TI for  the lowest temperature range the application is expected to be used in. The gauge has a smoothening feature that prevents steep drops in SOC. It is possible to disable undervoltage protection using the UV  prot delay. it's not advisable to do this as the cell could be damaged if severely discharged.

thanks

Onyx

Forum Post: RE: bq27510-g3 learning cycle

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Kat,

It appears we have a gap in our tools for bq27510-G3 that we are working on.

EVSW, as you may know, is a legacy tool.  For some older products, it is the only tool available.  It works well enough for bq27510-G3, except for bqEasy which is hardcoded to look for some parameters that don't exist, which is why you get those error messages. 

I would recommend that you instead use GaugeStudio for now.  It is itself a transitional tool that is being replaced by our latest GUI that should eventually support all of our latest products. 


The latest tool, and one which we will be focusing on exclusively going forward is called Battery Management Studio (aka bqStudio).  All new products are being launched with bqStudio as the only tool necessary.  Currently the installer only supports a handful of our latest products, but as we test with each existing older product, we will add support over time.  As of the time I'm posting this, bqStudio doesn't support bq27510-G3, but it will be added in the near future.

In the meantime, GaugeStudio is the latest tool that does support bq27510-G3.  However, GaugeStudio doesn't have a full equivalent of bqEasy.  It does have a Chemistry plugin to program the chemID.  It does have a plugin called Golden Files, but it simply reads out the flash contents as-is and does not change any flags or copy any learned data to other profiles.  This is different from the button in bqEasy, which resets everything and sets flags and other learned parameters to be ready for production.

So...

Temporarily this is what I recommend you do to manually "goldenize" your file after a learning cycle:

After you get a successful learning cycle where Update Status is 02 (for system-side gauges like bq27510 or bq27520) or 06 (for pack-side gauges like bq2754x or bq2774x), you will need to copy the learned data to a few other locations and change some flags.

  1. The system-side gauges have four Qmax locations.  Find the one that updated from your learning cycle (probably Qmax 0) and copy it to the other three locations (Qmax 1 as well as two more Qmax locations within the OCV Tables).  Pack-side gauges only have one Qmax, so just leave it as the learned value.
  2. Change Update Status values.
    1. For system-side gauges, change all four Update Status values to 02.
    2. For pack-side gauges, change Update Status from 06 to 02 if you plan to send the IT_ENABLE command in the pack production line or leave it at 06 if you want to leave IT enabled and skip sending the IT_ENABLE command in production.
  3. Update Ra tables
    1. System-side gauges:
      1. There are six Ra tables (Def0, Def1, Pack0, Pack1, Pack0 Rax, and Pack1 Rax).
      2. Both Pack0 Ra or Pack0 Rax should have been updating during the learning cycle.  Find the one with the most recent update (Ra Status and Ra Flag will be 00 / 55) and copy the values of Base, Gain, and all points in the table to the other five tables.  Change all Ra Status and Ra Flag values to 00 / 55, except leave the two Rax tables at FF / FF.
    2. Pack-side gauges:
      1. There are only two Ra tables.  Find the one with Ra Flag = 0055 and copy those values to the other table.
  4. Change any cycle counters or reset counters to 0.
  5. Update any Manufacturer Info Block data to your desired values for version control or other purposes.
  6. Update any other parameters you want, for example
    1. Change calibration values to the average values taken from samples of your actual production boards.
    2. Set Avg I Last Run and Avg P Last Run to typical system load values so that the gauge will initialize using those loads for predictions.
    3. Set SOH Load I to either a typical system load or a maximum system load.

That looks complicated when typed out, but it's basically just reviewing all of your parameters before exporting the golden file.  Let me know if you have any questions.

Forum Post: RE: BQ24190 is not charging the Battery

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Hi Rachel, 

Thanx for your fast reply. I have already tried with default register setting, but it is not getting charged. After that I have tried with setting minimum DPM value also ( by setting REG00 as 0x05) then also it is not charging.

Regards,

Ganesh. 

Forum Post: RE: FW for bq3060

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Please as soon as it possible, send me too the file (.senc) for the controller bq3060.

Best regards,

Jarek.

Forum Post: RE: bq20z40 v1.04 software

Forum Post: RE: IC with PowerPath and cell balancing for two LiPo in series to provide 8.8vreg out?

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Did this work out for you? I'm also looking for a solution to balance 2 cells while utilising power path/load sharing. Everything I come across is for one cell. I know conventional wisdom is that you should disconnect the batteries from load when balance charging but there are plenty of laptops and other portable electronics that somehow pull this off whilst using multiple cells.

Forum Post: bq24086 ESD rating

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Hi,

Can you please advise what the ESD rating is for the bq24086 charge management IC?

Thanks,
John


Forum Post: BQ24230 Ibat leakage

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Hello.  

I am evaluating the BQ24230 in a new design.  The spec says IBat should be 6.5uA max, but I am measuring about 13uA.  All pins are terminated as specified, the load is disconnected and 0V input voltage.  I have tried 3 different parts and even a BQ24232 and they have IBat at 2x the spec.

2 questions:

1. Is the spec wrong?

2. Will IBat leakage be lower is CE=high?

Cheers

Philip

Forum Post: TPS62086 High current 3.3V and ? charging solution for Qi and USB with OTG output

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Hi, I am building some modular boards for prototyping.  I have designed a USB based solution for 3.3V using a BQ24392 negotiating high current for a TPS62086.  Now I would like to add a compatible optional battery module that is a complete Qi receiver, battery, and charger 'in a box'.  I can provide the 5V line from the USB as well as negotiation signals from the BQ24932 and obviously the 3.3V for the system.  I know there are dual input chargers and that combined with a BQ51013B would work for all but OTG output.  What I am wondering though, would I need a simple buckup for the OTG then?  Is there any safe/cheaper way to utilize something like a BQ24295 and some isolation logic to allow for charging by Qi if present, otherwise USB charging or OTG supply?  Is it better to utilize a BQ51050 for Qi and have two chargers?

Forum Post: RE: Charger IC without precharge

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Hello,

Could I have the reply please ?
I would like to know whether we can use bq24115 as fast charge mode always on stand alone.

Best Regards,
Ryuji Asaka

Forum Post: RE: how can I read data from bq34z100 I2C_write,I2C_read ?

Forum Post: bq76920 without connection to cells

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Hello,

I have an existing unprotected 12 cells battery pack (including passive balancing and over-voltage protection). I want to add some features:

- Overcurrent/Short circuit protection

- Bidirectional Coulombs counter

- Instantaneous current reading

- It would also be nice to disconnect the pack with I2C/SPI command or GPIO

The bq76920 may do the job, since it integrate sense resistor amplifier, CC, and short circuit protection.

- Could it work in this particular application since I will NOT connect any cell to the chip?

- Does it offer the instantaneous current reading?

Thank you

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